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Mietin tässä voiko kuntosaliharjoittelu pysäyttää pituuskasvun? Olen 18 vuotta ja pituutta löytyy 176 cm. Into salilla käymiseen olisi kova, mutta mietityttää tuo pituuskasvu. Jos nimittäin isäukkoon olen tullut, niin kasvan hiljalleen pituutta vielä pitkälle päälle parinkymmenen ikävuoden, luultavasti ainakin 180 senttiseksi, joten en haluaisi riskeerata pituuskasvua. Mitäs mieltä olette?
 
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Heh,tuosta juuri chättäiltiin punttis kanavalla qnetin puolella, en tiedä siitäkö sait idean threadin perustamiseen, mutta mutta lisätään tähän heti perään sellainen juttu mistä tuolla kanavallakin selitin, että jos tuosta on todellakin jotain tutkittua tietoa/artikkeleita/tms niin linkkiä kehiin, itselläni on pituuskasvu jo ohi mutta ainahan on kiva oppia asioista lisää. Searchilla löytyi vain näitä "älä tee mavea/kyykkyä"-juttuja ilman mitään varsinaisia tutkimuslähteitä.
 
nelkku sanoi:
Heh,tuosta juuri chättäiltiin punttis kanavalla qnetin puolella, en tiedä siitäkö sait idean threadin perustamiseen, mutta mutta lisätään tähän heti perään sellainen juttu mistä tuolla kanavallakin selitin, että jos tuosta on todellakin jotain tutkittua tietoa/artikkeleita/tms niin linkkiä kehiin, itselläni on pituuskasvu jo ohi mutta ainahan on kiva oppia asioista lisää. Searchilla löytyi vain näitä "älä tee mavea/kyykkyä"-juttuja ilman mitään varsinaisia tutkimuslähteitä.

Juu, en ole tuolla kanavalla käynyt. Itsekin yritin searchilla etsiä mutta varsinaista tutkimustietoa ei oikein löytynyt.
 
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Strength Training for Youth
By Wayne L. Westcott, PhD

Posted on NaturalStrength.com on December 29, 2002

As a boy, I generally liked physical education classes. However, I was not fond of fitness testing day. Like 50 percent of all young people then and now, I could not chin myself and always felt embarrassed struggling to lift my bodyweight. It was always interesting to me that this all-out, gut-wrenching muscular effort was considered good, but that any form of weight training was considered bad.

That is, it was okay to try to lift my bodyweight (something that I could not do one time), but it was not okay to lift a 30-pound barbell (something that I could do 10 times). This did not make much sense, especially since proper training with the barbell could enable me to perform a few chin-ups.

Several years later when I became the physical education teacher at that same elementary school, we did things differently. I developed an after-school weight training program for the 5th and 6th graders, and these students progressively increased their muscular strength. We had no injuries, and very few program participants who failed the chin-up test.

This took place in the early 1970s, and the prevailing misunderstanding was that youth strength training was at worst dangerous, and at best worthless. Dangerous, because it was thought that lifting weights would damage bone growth plates. Useless, because it was thought that youthful muscles did not have the capacity to gain strength apart from normal growth processes. Both assumptions have proven false. According to the National Strength and Conditioning Association (1985) there are no documented reports of bone growth plate injury due to strength training. Competitive weight lifting, yes; but sensible strength training, no.

Several research studies (Servedio et al., 1985; Sewall & Micheli, 1986; Weltman et al., 1986) have demonstrated that boys and girls can gain muscle strength at about the same rate as adults. During the past three years, we have completed four youth strength training studies at the South Shore YMCA. All of the research programs were conducted by certified strength instructors over a two-month training period.

Study One

The first study (Westcott, 1991) was conducted with young teenage boys and girls. The training group consisted of 14 exercisers (average age 14 years), and the control group consisted of 5 non-exercisers (average age 14 years). The exercise group trained 3 days a week for 8 weeks with the following machines: leg extension, leg curl, leg press, decline press, pulldown, incline press, low row, and pressdown. The participants performed one set of 8 to 12 repetitions with each exercise, using slow movement speed and full movement range.

Results showed that the exercise group increased their lower body strength by 63 percent and their upper body strength by 33 percent. By comparison, the non-exercise group improved their lower body strength by 8 percent and their upper body strength by 4 percent.

Both groups experienced a 3-pound increase in bodyweight over the 2-month study period. The exercisers added 4 pounds of lean weight and lost 1 pound of fat weight, whereas the non-exercisers added 2 pounds of lean weight and 1 pound of fat weight. Although the control group added lean tissue through normal growth processes, they did not improve their functional muscle strength significantly. However, the exercise group added twice as much lean tissue and made significant improvements in their functional muscle strength.

It is noted that there were no injuries to any of the boys and girls who participated in this strength training program.

Study Two

This study (Westcott, 1992) involved 10 preadolescent boys and girls, with an average age of 10 years. All of the participants trained 3 days a week for 8 weeks with the following machines: leg extension, leg curl, chest press, biceps curl, and shoulder press. They performed one set of 8 to 12 repetitions with each exercise, using slow movement speed and full movement range.

Results showed that the subjects increased their chest-triceps strength by 66 percent. They also made a 4-pound improvement in their body composition by adding 3 pounds of lean weight and losing 1 pound of fat weight.

It is noted that there were no injuries to any of the boys and girls who participated in this strength training program.

Study Three

The largest study (Westcott, 1993) included 57 preadolescent boys and girls, with an average age of 11 years. All of the participants trained 3 days a week for 8 weeks with the following machines: leg press, compound row, bench press, torso-arm and rotary torso. They performed one set of 8 to 12 repetitions with each exercise, using slow movement speed and full movement range.

Results showed that these exercisers increased their chest-triceps strength by 55 percent. They experienced a 6.5-pound improvement in their body composition by adding 4 pounds of lean weight and losing 2.5 pounds of fat weight.

It is noted that there were no injuries to any of the boys and girls who participated in this strength training program.

Study Four

The final study (Faigenbaum, Zaichkowsky, Westcott, Micheli, & Fehlandt, 1993) involved two groups of preadolescent boys and girls. The training group consisted of 14 exercisers (average age 11 years), and the control group consisted of 9 non-exercisers (average age 10 years). Unlike the previous studies, this exercise group trained only 2 days a week for 8 weeks with the following machines: leg extension, leg curl, chest press, biceps curl, and shoulder press. The participants performed 3 sets of 10 to 15 repetitions with each exercise, using slow movement speed and full movement range.

The results indicate that the exercise group increased their chest-triceps strength by 64 percent and their overall strength by 74 percent. Body composition changes were assessed by the sum of 7 skinfold measurements. The exercise subjects experienced a 2 percent decrease in their skinfold measurements, whereas the non-exercise subjects experienced a 2 percent increase in their skinfold measurements. That is, the exercisers improved their muscle strength and body composition significantly more than the non-exercisers.

It is noted that there were no injuries to any of the boys and girls who participated in this strength training program.

Discussion of Research Findings

All four studies revealed significant strength improvements in 10- to 14-year-old boys and girls following 8 weeks of sensible strength training. It is interesting that the strength gains for the chest-triceps muscles were similar for the groups training with 1 set per exercise, 3 days a week (Studies Two and Three) and for the group training with 3 sets per exercise, 2 days a week (Study Four). These findings indicate that youth strength training programs consisting of 1 to 3 sets of exercise, 2 to 3 days a week, are effective for increasing muscle strength in boys and girls.

Likewise, all four studies showed body composition improvements in 10- to 14-year-old boys and girls following 8 weeks of sensible strength training. On the average, the young strength exercisers added 3 to 4 pounds of lean weight and lost 1 to 2.5 pounds of fat weight.

One of the most important outcomes of these four studies involving almost 100 boys and girls was the absence of any exercise-related injuries. It is therefore suggested that well designed and well supervised strength training programs are a safe and productive means for improving muscle strength and body composition in teen and pre-teen boys and girls.

Youth Strength Training Program Design

Generally speaking, the basic strength training principles, as recommended by the American College of Sports Medicine, are the same for youth and adults. However, special care must be given to training technique and exercise control when working with young people. Proper instruction and careful supervision are the keys to successful youth strength training programs.

Program Recommendations

Realizing the importance of strength exercise for desirable musculoskeletal development in youth, the following medical and professional organizations met in August 1985 to develop sensible strength training guidelines for preadolescent boys and girls.

Equipment

1. Strength training equipment should be of appropriate design to accommodate the size and degree of maturity of the prepubescent.

2. It should be cost-effective.

3. It should be located in an uncrowded area free of obstruction with adequate lighting and ventilation.

Program Considerations

1. A preparticipation physical exam is mandatory.

2. The child must have the emotional maturity to accept coaching and instruction.

3. There must be adequate supervision by coaches who are knowledgeable about strength training and the special problems of prepubescents.

4. Strength training should be a part of an overall comprehensive program designed to increase motor skills and level of fitness.

5. Strength training should be preceded by a warm-up period and followed by a cool down.

6. Emphasis should be on dynamic concentric contractions.

7. All exercises should be carried through a full range of motion.

8. Competition is prohibited.

9. No maximum lift should ever be attempted.

Prescribed Program

1. Training is recommended two or three times a week for twenty to thirty-minute periods. 2. No resistance should be applied until proper form is demonstrated. Six to fifteen repetitions equal one set; one to three sets per exercise should be done.

3. Weight or resistance is increased in one to three-pound increments after the prepubescent does fifteen repetitions in good form.

Summary

Research clearly indicates that boys and girls can safely improve their muscle strength and body composition through a basic and brief program of strength exercise. In one study (Westcott, 1993), 57 preadolescents performed 5 exercises, 1 set, 8 to 12 repetitions, 3 days a week, with slow movement speed and full movement range. After 8 weeks of training, the participants increased their muscle strength by 55 percent and improved their body composition by 2 percent (4 pounds more lean weight and 2.5 pounds less fat weight).

Although the long-term benefits of youth strength training have not yet been documented, it is logical to assume that leaner and stronger youth may become leaner and stronger adults. Developing a strong musculoskeletal system during the formative years may also reduce the risk of injuries and degenerative diseases during the adult years.

The medically based guidelines for youth strength training programs emphasize an uncrowded facility, appropriate equipment, physician clearance, qualified instructors, brief exercise periods, gradual progression, no competition, and no maximum lifts. When appropriate training guidelines are observed, strength exercise is a recommended physical activity for teen and pre-teen boys and girls.



Wayne L. Westcott, Ph.D., is Fitness/Research Director at the South Shore YMCA in Quincy, MA, and Strength Training Consultant for the National YMCA, the American Council on Exercise, and IDEA. Dr. Westcott is author of the college text Strength Fitness and the professional text, Be Strong.

References

Faigenbaum, A. D., Zaichkowsky, L. D., Westcott, W. L., Micheli, L. J., and Fehlandt, A. F. (1993). The effects of a twice-a-week strength training program on children. Pediatric Exercise Science 5 (4): 339-346.

National Strength and Conditioning Association (1985). Position paper on prepubescent strength training. NCSA Journal 7 (4): 27-31.

Servedio, F. R., Bartels, R., Hamlin, R., Teske, D., Shaffer, T., and Servedio, A. (1985). The effects of weight training, using Olympic style lifts, on various physiological variables in pre- pubescent boys. Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise, 17: 288.

Sewall, L., and Micheli, L. (1986). Strength training for children. Journal of Pediatric Orthopoedics, 6: 143-146.

Weltman, D., Janney, C., Rians, C., Strand, K., Berg, B., Tippet, S., Wise, J., Cahill, B., and Katch, F. (1986). The effects of hydraulic resistance strength training on pre-pubescent males. Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise, 18: 629-638.

Westcott, W. L. (1991). Safe and sane strength training for teenagers.
Scholastic Coach, 61 (3): 42-44.

Westcott, W. L. (1992). A look at youth fitness.
American Fitness Quarterly, 11 (1): 16-19. Westcott, W. L. (1993). Strength training research. Paper presented at IDEA World Research Forum, New Orleans, Louisiana, July 22.





tässä muutama lähdeviite noiden lisäksi:

Sewall L, Micheli LJ. Strength training for children. J Pediatr Orthop. 1986;6:143-146.

Rians CB, Weltman A, Cahill BR, Janney CA, et al. Strength training for prepubescent males: is it safe? Am J Sports Med. 1987;15:483-489.

Grana WA. Strength training. In: Pediatric and Adolescent Sports Medicine. Vol 3. Philadelphia, Pa: WB Saunders Co; 1994:520-525.

Jesse JP. Olympic lifting movements endanger adolescents. Phys Sports Med. 1977:5(9);61-67.

Bosco C, Colli R, Introini E, Cardinale M, Tsarpela O, Madella A, Tihanyi J, Viru A. Adaptive responses of human skeletal muscle to vibration exposure. Clin Physiol. 1999;19:183-187.
 
jto sanoi:
According to the National Strength and Conditioning Association (1985) there are no documented reports of bone growth plate injury due to strength training. Competitive weight lifting, yes; but sensible strength training, no.
Shut Up And Squat :worship:
Ei nuo ohjelmassa huomioon otettavat 10 kohtaa tekisi aikuisellekaan ihmiselle mitenkään pahaa, turhaanhan tavallaan noita maksimeja nostellaan ja hajotetaan kroppaa, jos ei puhuta kilpailevasta yksilöstä. Kyllä se vaan niin menee että nuorena on jo hyvä alkaa keräämään pohjakuntoa, niin on sitten hieman vanhempana homma hallussa, kovin nuo kakarat on saanu lisää voimia pienellä ajanjaksolla tuossa testissä.
 
Jatketaan nyt sitten vielä uudella näkökulmalla... Jos unohdetaan tuo luihin kohdistuva rasitus ja siirrytään seuraamaan esimerkiksi kasvuhormonitasoja, miten nuoren painoharjoittelu vaikuttaa kasvuhormonitasoihin ja sitä kautta pituuskasvuun, vai vaikuttaako ollenkaan?
 
Auberon sanoi:
Mietin tässä voiko kuntosaliharjoittelu pysäyttää pituuskasvun? Olen 18 vuotta ja pituutta löytyy 176 cm. Into salilla käymiseen olisi kova, mutta mietityttää tuo pituuskasvu. Jos nimittäin isäukkoon olen tullut, niin kasvan hiljalleen pituutta vielä pitkälle päälle parinkymmenen ikävuoden, luultavasti ainakin 180 senttiseksi, joten en haluaisi riskeerata pituuskasvua. Mitäs mieltä olette?
Niin, ei kait tästä jutusta mitään tutkimuksia ole jotka väittäisi että pysäyttäisi pituuskavun. Itse kuitenkin luulen että näin on asian laita jostakin syystä. Kyllähän sen jo näkee kavereista jotka alkanut salilla käynnin aikaisin, todella lyhyitä kaikki! Itse jätän kaikki raskaimmat liikkeet jotka rasittaa selkää pois, ihan vain varmuuden vuoksi esim. maastavedot, kyykyt jne. Olen tällä hetkellä about 178cm? pitkä, ja haluasin todellakin saada ton 180cm rikki. Joten ehkä kun on joku 20wee lasissa niin voi noita "kovempia" liikkeitä ruveta harrasteleen.
 
Itse jäin noin 3cm lyhyemmäksi kuin isäni ja punttisalilla aloin käymään 14-vuotiaana. Olen kasvanut punttisalilla käynnin aloituksen jälkeen ~6cm

Mitä mieltä olette heistä ketkä kasvavat "vasta" armeijassa että tulisiko heistä pidempiä jos saisivat enemmän ruokaa?

Auttaisikoha leuanvetotangossa roikkuminen pituuteen? :evil: Alkaisin näyttämään yhä enemmän venäläiseltä painonnostajalta, pitkä selkä ja lyhyet jalat :lol2:
 
Kerran luin netissä yhtä palstaa jossa joku ammattibodari vastaili kysymyksiin. Joku kysyi juuri tästä ja ammattibodari sanoi että liikkeet jotka rasittavat selkää, eli esim. kyykky, mave ja pään yläpuolelle tehtävät nostot. Hauiskäännöllä ja penkkipunnerruksella siis ei saa pituuskasvua pysähtymään, vaikka kuinka yrittää.
 
Ite 174cm ja ennuste 179cm, joten jäljessä ollaan!! Nuo määräät, mitä ite oon tehny mavessa ja kyykyssä ei voi pysäyttää kasvua. Pituus on vain jämähtänyt paikoilleen. Toivottavasti pääsis ees yli 175.. vittu!!
 

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Mulla oli ennuste 178 ja oon 172, pituuskasvu loppu jo ennen saliharrastuksen alkamista. Millanenkoha midget oisin jos treenaaminen ois alkanu joskus 15vuotiaana..
 
En kyllä tiedä, että pitääkö tuo pituuskasvu ennusteet oikeen paikkaansa, mutta itsestäni olisi ennusteen mukaan pitänyt tulla 189cm ja nyt olen vain 185cm 14-vuotiaasta asti ollut, jolloin alotin punttaamisen...
 
Ite oon nyt 173cm enkä tästä enää tunnu kasvavan, vaikka ennustus oli 178cm. Pituuskasvu on siis jämähtänyt paikoilleen. Ja toi "ennustus" ei sitten ole ihan mikä tahansa koulun terveydenhoitajan arvaus pituuskäyrästä vaan kävin varta vasten erikoislääkärillä ottamassa mun kämmenestä röntgen-kuvan ja siitä sitten katottiin luiden yhtymäkohdista, että onko ne yhdessä ja paljon on vielä väliä. Joten raskaat kyykyt ja mave on mulla varmaankin syöny ton 5cm kasvusta pois, mutta ei se mitään. Oon täysin tyytyväinen pituuteeni, pidempään ruotoon tuntuisi tosi vaivalloiselta rakennella minkäänlaisia massoja.
 
Mun ennustus oli 183cm mutta jain 173 tai jotain. Ei voi mittaa. En ole kasvanut sitten yla asteen. Silti olen tyytyvainen pituuteeni. Onpahan ainakin sopusuhtanen ruoto.Tallanen kevyt ruumiinrakenne on ihan kaytannollinen ja helppo hoitonen.
 
olkaas nyt hiukkasen fiksuja. ennuste on VAIN ennuste. ei yhtään sen enempää. siihen vaikuttaa aikalailla monet asiat. treenaaminen väärin saattaa olla yks pituuskasvua hidastava tekijä, mutta myös varhanen murrosikä saattaa aiheuttaa stopin. testot sulkee epifyysilevyt, kuten mainitsin.

treenaaminen stimuloi kasvuhormoni- ja testotuotantoa, joten sinänsä harjottelulla ei oo huonoja vaikutuksia fyysiseen kehitykseen. lopettakaa senttien kattelu ja menkää treenaamaan :)
 
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pituus nyt 178cm..ennustettu että kasvaisin päälle 180 cm.tosin viimeksi terveydenhoitaja sanoi että on tämä käyrä alkanut taantumaan..että jokunen sentti korkeentaan tulee lisää jos tulee..toivottavasti tulee :rolleyes:
 

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