On niin upeaa keskustelua (lue: vittuilua), että ei voi kuin ihailla. En tiedä kiinalaisesta lääketieteestä (paitsi pari kertaa käynyt akupunktiossa) , mutta hyvin ne on siellä tuhansia vuosia pyristellyt ja vois olettaa, että niiden lääketiede toiminut kun väkeäkin aika paljon siellä.
Heräsi sellainen kysymys tässä, notta onko väärin kuunnella lääketieteen ammattilaisia jotka huolissaan rokotteen vaikutuksista ja siitä kuinka tarpeellinen se edes on?
Mikasa heitti jotain älyllisestä epärehellisyydestä aiemmin, mun mielestä on älyllistä epärehellisyyttä väittää, että lapset tarvii tota rokotetta.
Esimerkkinä tällaisesta ammattilaisesta joka oman järjestönsä kanssa esittänyt kysymyksiä on Professor Sucharit Bhakdi, M.D.
Meriitit ei tietysti miestä paina , ihan hupiukko :
Professsor Sucharit Bhakdi MD,
Professor Emeritus of Medical Microbiology and Immunology,
Former Chair, Institute of Medical Microbiology and Hygiene, Johannes Gutenberg University of Mainz (Medical Doctor and Scientist) (Germany and Thailand)
Järjestö jossa hän ja toista sataa lääkäriä ja tutkijaa ympäri eurooppaa mukana:
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Musta tuntuu, että te rokotekiimaiset jätätte kaiken muun väliin kuin teidän oman näkemyksen, koska... niin no syytä en ole keksinyt. Olisko se kuuluisa vahvistusharha?
Kuittaatte kaiken huutelemalla foliohatuista, rokotevastaisuudesta, leijonista yms. fiksua. Asiallinen keskustelu ja kysymykset kuitataan huutelulla.
Esim tällä videolla aiemmin mainittu tohtorismies esittää hyviä mietteitä rokotteista. Olen satavarma, että ette kykene katsomaan tätä, koska (valitse syy x tai y), mutta pystytte kuittaamaan kaiken mitä tää professori sanoo ilman mitään perusteluita tai linkkaamalla tutkimuksia joita ette ole edes itse lukeneet.
Nyt on vakuuttavaa.
Follow to data. Miks expert opinionilla on isompi merkitys kuin 1miljardilla rokotetulla, ymmärtämällä biologinen mekanismi laajimmat ja kattavin data ja mitä tapahtuu reaalimaailmassa. Immunologian asiantuntija menee esim verenhyytymissairauksiin perehtyneen professorin edelle sun hierarkiassa?
Over the course of the 40-minute clip, Bhakdi calls the pandemic “a fake,” says wearing masks and quarantining is “absolutely ridiculous nonsense,” and coronavirus tests don’t work. In this fact-check, we’re focusing on the claim that COVID-19 vaccines are killing people.
That claim sounds scary coming from a scientist, but it's not accurate.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has approved three coronavirus vaccines for emergency use in the United States. Clinical trials involving tens of thousands of participants found the vaccines were safe and effective at preventing coronavirus infection, and millions of Americans have safely received them.
There’s no evidence the vaccines cause death, or that they will depopulate the planet – and clear evidence to the contrary.
USA TODAY reached out to Red Pill University and the New American for comment.
Coronavirus vaccines are safe, effective
The three COVID-19 vaccines approved for emergency use in the U.S. are one from Pfizer-BioNTech, one from Moderna and one from Janssen, a pharmaceutical company owned by Johnson & Johnson. Public health officials say all are safe and effective at preventing COVID-19.
Over the course of several months in 2020, more than 100,000 people participated in clinical trials for the coronavirus vaccines as a group.
None of those trials found that the vaccines caused death. The FDA approved the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines in December and the Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine in February.
Since then, more than 144 million Americans have received at least one vaccine dose,
according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
If the vaccines were as deadly as Bhakdi says, we would surely see widespread and mounting deaths in the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS),
a federally managed database of self-reported vaccine side effects.
There are reports of vaccine-related deaths in the VAERS database, but because anyone – from doctors and nurses to patients and parents – can submit cases, the CDC says those reports are unverified and may be inaccurate.
Fact check: CDC data on adverse effects of vaccine cannot determine cause
“COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective,”
the CDC says on its website. “To date, VAERS has not detected patterns in cause of death that would indicate a safety problem with COVID-19 vaccines.”
No evidence of autoimmune responses
Bhakdi says in the video that the vaccines can kill people by causing autoimmune responses. He says that’s because messenger RNA (mRNA) “packages” – genetic strands in the Pfizer and Moderna shots
that tell your body how to defend itself against the coronavirus – don’t leave the bloodstream and could cause your immune system to attack healthy cells.
That’s wrong on both fronts.
mRNA vaccines work by getting our cells to produce the spike protein free of any virus.
JENNIFER BORRESEN/USA TODAY
Fact-checkers have
repeatedly debunked the notion that COVID-19 vaccines cause autoimmune disorders. There is no evidence to suggest they do, and Bhakdi’s rationale for the claim – that mRNA never leaves the bloodstream – isn’t accurate.
Here’s how it works:
When someone receives a vaccine from Pfizer or Moderna, mRNA strands program cells to produce spike proteins similar to those on the surface of the coronavirus. The body recognizes those proteins as invaders and produces antibodies to block them. Those antibodies prevent future coronavirus infections.
Once that process is completed, mRNA doesn’t linger in the bloodstream.
Fact check: FDA did not associate Pfizer's first vaccine dose with COVID-19 infections
“The cell breaks down and gets rid of the mRNA soon after it is finished using the instructions,”
the CDC says on its website.
Blood clot cases extremely rare
According to Bhakdi, another way COVID-19 vaccines are killing people is through the formation of deadly blood clots. That’s an inaccurate spin on recent news about the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
In mid-April, the CDC and the FDA
recommended a pause in Johnson & Johnson shots after six cases of a rare type of blood clot
were reported in women ages 18 to 48 among the nearly 7 million people who received the Johnson & Johnson vaccine at the time. One woman in Virginia died.
Fact check: CDC recommends masks in most cases even after COVID-19 vaccine
After a review of the vaccine’s safety, public health officials
recommended April 23 that Johnson & Johnson shots resume nationwide.
“A review of all available data at this time shows that the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine’s known and potential benefits outweigh its known and potential risks,”
the CDC says on its website. “However, women younger than 50 years old especially should be aware of the rare but increased risk of this adverse event and that there are other COVID-19 vaccine options available for which this risk has not been seen.”
Our rating: False
The claim that coronavirus vaccines are killing people and will decimate the world’s population is FALSE, based on our research. Public health officials say all three coronavirus vaccines approved for emergency use in the U.S. are safe and effective at preventing infection
. There is no evidence the vaccines cause deadly autoimmune disorders, and reports of blood clots following the Johnson & Johnson vaccine are extremely rare.
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