- Liittynyt
- 26.3.2011
- Viestejä
- 27
Itse en pysty uskomaan johonki minka syntymalle ei ole selitysta.
Jumalan syntymalle ei tarvi selitysta koska kirjoitusten mukaan Jumala on jossain missa ei ole semmoista kasite kuin aika, ja kun ei ole aikaa, niin ei ole alkua eika loppua
Kosminen evoluutio
Ehka jotenkin voi perustella itselleen mielessaan etta kaikki alkoi alkurajahdyksesta.
Mutta kun miettii syvemmalle niin joutuu miettia kysymyksia kuten
mika siella rajahti ja mista se tuli?
Missa se rajahti, rajahdys tarvii tilan missa rajahtaa, Eli mista tuli tila taikka avaruus?
Niin teen loogisen johtopaatoksen etta maailmankaikkeus ei voi olla randomin evoluution tulos
Pari tekstia mista kiinnostais kuulla ateistin ajatukset
"The idea that God can be eternal leads us to the idea that maybe the universe is eternal, and, therefore, God doesn't need to exist at all. Actually, this was the prevalent belief of atheists before the observational data of the 20th century strongly refuted the idea that the universe was eternal. This fact presented a big dilemma for atheists, since a non-eternal universe implied that it must have been caused. Maybe Genesis 1:1 was correct! Not to be dismayed by the facts, atheists have invented some metaphysical "science" that attempt to explain away the existence of God. Hence, most atheistic cosmologists believe that we see only the visible part of a much larger "multiverse" that randomly spews out universes with different physical parameters.2 Since there is no evidence supporting this idea (nor can there be, according to the laws of the universe), it is really just a substitute "god" for atheists. And, since this "god" is non-intelligent by definition, it requires a complex hypothesis, which would be ruled out if we use Occam's razor, which states that one should use the simplest logical explanation for any phenomenon. Purposeful intelligent design of the universe makes much more sense, especially based upon what we know about the design of the universe"
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What does science say about time?
When Stephen Hawking, George Ellis, and Roger Penrose extended the equations for general relativity to include space and time, the results showed that time has a beginning - at the moment of creation (i.e., the Big Bang).3 In fact, if you examine university websites, you will find that many professors make such a claim - that the universe had a beginning and that this beginning marked the beginning of time (see The Universe is Not Eternal, But Had A Beginning). Such assertions support the Bible's claim that time began at the creation of the universe.
Conclusion
God has no need to have been created, since He exists either outside time (where cause and effect do not operate) or within multiple dimensions of time (such that there is no beginning of God's plane of time). Hence God is eternal, having never been created. Although it is possible that the universe itself is eternal, eliminating the need for its creation, observational evidence contradicts this hypothesis, since the universe began to exist a finite ~13.7 billion years ago. The only possible escape for the atheist is the invention of a kind of super universe, which can never be confirmed experimentally (hence it is metaphysical in nature, and not scientific).
Jumalan syntymalle ei tarvi selitysta koska kirjoitusten mukaan Jumala on jossain missa ei ole semmoista kasite kuin aika, ja kun ei ole aikaa, niin ei ole alkua eika loppua
Kosminen evoluutio
Ehka jotenkin voi perustella itselleen mielessaan etta kaikki alkoi alkurajahdyksesta.
Mutta kun miettii syvemmalle niin joutuu miettia kysymyksia kuten
mika siella rajahti ja mista se tuli?
Missa se rajahti, rajahdys tarvii tilan missa rajahtaa, Eli mista tuli tila taikka avaruus?
Niin teen loogisen johtopaatoksen etta maailmankaikkeus ei voi olla randomin evoluution tulos
Pari tekstia mista kiinnostais kuulla ateistin ajatukset
"The idea that God can be eternal leads us to the idea that maybe the universe is eternal, and, therefore, God doesn't need to exist at all. Actually, this was the prevalent belief of atheists before the observational data of the 20th century strongly refuted the idea that the universe was eternal. This fact presented a big dilemma for atheists, since a non-eternal universe implied that it must have been caused. Maybe Genesis 1:1 was correct! Not to be dismayed by the facts, atheists have invented some metaphysical "science" that attempt to explain away the existence of God. Hence, most atheistic cosmologists believe that we see only the visible part of a much larger "multiverse" that randomly spews out universes with different physical parameters.2 Since there is no evidence supporting this idea (nor can there be, according to the laws of the universe), it is really just a substitute "god" for atheists. And, since this "god" is non-intelligent by definition, it requires a complex hypothesis, which would be ruled out if we use Occam's razor, which states that one should use the simplest logical explanation for any phenomenon. Purposeful intelligent design of the universe makes much more sense, especially based upon what we know about the design of the universe"
...
What does science say about time?
When Stephen Hawking, George Ellis, and Roger Penrose extended the equations for general relativity to include space and time, the results showed that time has a beginning - at the moment of creation (i.e., the Big Bang).3 In fact, if you examine university websites, you will find that many professors make such a claim - that the universe had a beginning and that this beginning marked the beginning of time (see The Universe is Not Eternal, But Had A Beginning). Such assertions support the Bible's claim that time began at the creation of the universe.
Conclusion
God has no need to have been created, since He exists either outside time (where cause and effect do not operate) or within multiple dimensions of time (such that there is no beginning of God's plane of time). Hence God is eternal, having never been created. Although it is possible that the universe itself is eternal, eliminating the need for its creation, observational evidence contradicts this hypothesis, since the universe began to exist a finite ~13.7 billion years ago. The only possible escape for the atheist is the invention of a kind of super universe, which can never be confirmed experimentally (hence it is metaphysical in nature, and not scientific).
ja lopputuloksena on se, että joku jossain vaiheessa uskoo hengen liikuttavan lasia ja kertoo tästä äimistyneenä eteenpäin.
). Se, että mistä ja miten alitajunta nuo tiedot pomii, ei ole mitään hajua. Siksi juuri, se on sitä tiedostamatonta informaation hankkimista, millä ei juuri sillä hetkellä ole mitään käyttötarkoitusta. Unien tarkoitushan on yhdistää nämä päivien aikana saatu tietovirta järkevämmäksi paketiksi. 