Cain Velasquez
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- 27.4.2005
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Saas nähdä. Täyden campin tehnyt Hunt veisi luultavasti tuon matsin helpostikkin, mutta nyt taistellaan rasvaa ja korkeuseroa vastaan. Werdumilla korkeanpaikan leiritykset ollu jo hyvällä mallilla pidemmän aikaa.
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- 27.4.2005
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Vyö lähtee vikkelään, jos tulee vielä jotain komplikaatioita.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cain-velasquez-cant-recover-time-ufc-180-interim-202501745--mma.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cain-velasquez-cant-recover-time-ufc-180-interim-202501745--mma.html
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- 25.2.2005
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Se on ihan sama kuka siellä on mestarina kun Cain tulee takas. Vyö lähtee Cainin mukana.
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Kysymys onkin tuleeko takaisin ja millon. Rivien välistä on jo pystynyt tulkitsemaan että jalka on aika huonossa kunnossa, saattaa tulla ongelmia jatkossa tai jo kuntoutuksen aikana. Tietysti toivotaan että kaikki menee hyvin ja nähdään Cain viimeistään kesällä.
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Mike Dolce: Cain Velasquez has good results, but carrying around that extra weight does not suit itself for MMA - MMAmania.com
"Guys like Cain (Velasquez) that are extremely dominant, because he's such a genetic freak, I can still say, and any sports science person in the industry will agree, he's not competing at his optimal body weight. He may have good results with his competition performance, but truly, that's not an optimal body weight. You cannot convince me that carrying around 20, 30, 40 pounds of subcutaneous adipose tissue or non-functional body weight is going to make you a better fighter in the modern era of the UFC. It absolutely will not, just like it won't on the basketball court or the soccer field. These athletes have a much higher physical demand than any other athlete on the planet. Carrying around that extra weight just does not suit itself for this career."
"Guys like Cain (Velasquez) that are extremely dominant, because he's such a genetic freak, I can still say, and any sports science person in the industry will agree, he's not competing at his optimal body weight. He may have good results with his competition performance, but truly, that's not an optimal body weight. You cannot convince me that carrying around 20, 30, 40 pounds of subcutaneous adipose tissue or non-functional body weight is going to make you a better fighter in the modern era of the UFC. It absolutely will not, just like it won't on the basketball court or the soccer field. These athletes have a much higher physical demand than any other athlete on the planet. Carrying around that extra weight just does not suit itself for this career."
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- 4.12.2014
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Ei suoranaisesti Velasqueziin liittyen mutta edellä olevaan ja ehkä hieman kevennyksenä muutaman legendan vanhoja mietteitä vartalontyypeistä:
"The day before he fought Mirko Cro Cop for the heavyweight belt, Emelianenko’s breakfast was eggs, bacon and sausages. What bothers you guys most, the fact that Pride today has a non-Brazilian king or that he is, well, chubby?
Rizzo: What really bothers me is that he’s got on his waist line that we want (laughs).
Nogueira: His genetics say he is chubby, so that’s got nothing to do with it. There are other great fighters with the same body type, such as Mark Hunt.
What we must do is to push one another and train harder. Further, the fact that he is fat makes it even more complicated when it comes to such an explosive, slippery fellow. It’s like Jeremy Horn, when the guy is fat an the skin is smooth, it gets hard to grab him.
Rizzo: More muscular fighters have more edges you can grab."
"The day before he fought Mirko Cro Cop for the heavyweight belt, Emelianenko’s breakfast was eggs, bacon and sausages. What bothers you guys most, the fact that Pride today has a non-Brazilian king or that he is, well, chubby?
Rizzo: What really bothers me is that he’s got on his waist line that we want (laughs).
Nogueira: His genetics say he is chubby, so that’s got nothing to do with it. There are other great fighters with the same body type, such as Mark Hunt.
What we must do is to push one another and train harder. Further, the fact that he is fat makes it even more complicated when it comes to such an explosive, slippery fellow. It’s like Jeremy Horn, when the guy is fat an the skin is smooth, it gets hard to grab him.
Rizzo: More muscular fighters have more edges you can grab."
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- 29.6.2013
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Paljon puhutaan nyt Juniorin primen hiipumisesta, mutta mitenhän on Cainin laita näiden ottelutaukojen ja loukkaantumisten vuoksi. Tosin mies on ollut tähän asti sen verran ylivoimainen, että pieni hiipuminen ei vielä riitä, mutta antaisi se kuitenkin vähän enemmän toivoa vastustajille jatkossa.
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- 27.4.2005
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Kuka tietää vaikka Cainin prime oli Lesnaria vastaan ja siitä eteenpäin on menty alamäkeä, jatkuvasta toipilaana niin vaikea uskoa että kehityskaari olisi millään tavalla lineaarinen ja nousujohteinen. Loukkaantumisia tulee tietysti melkein kaikilla, mutta tuskin Cain on merkittävästi kehittynyt sitten Lesnar matsin. Cainin ylivoimasuudestakin on hankala mennä sanomaan mitään, kun ainoat vastustajat Lesnarin jälkeen on olleet Isojalka ja Juniori.
Sais nyt ensivuodelle vaikka 2-3 puolustusta eri nimiä vastaan niin sitten voi katsoa uudestaan.
Sais nyt ensivuodelle vaikka 2-3 puolustusta eri nimiä vastaan niin sitten voi katsoa uudestaan.
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- 27.4.2005
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Fabricio Werdum will finish Cain Velasquez -- just like he did Fedor Emelianenko - MMAmania.com
"People will say he will not want to take me down. I'm sure he will continue fighting the same way. He won't take me down and get right back up. He will want to punch me on the ground because that is his instinct to KO his opponents and that is when I will catch him. That's how I envision the fight. I envision myself catching him like the Fedor fight. Not only with a kimura, a triangle, armbar, guillotine. Something will happen and I see this fight on the ground."
Cainin lukotus tulisi kyllä puskan takaa, Werdum ei ole saannut matossa kovinkaan paljoa aikaan Ufc:ssa. Joko aliarvostaa Cainin mattoa taikka röllää kuten yleensä.
"People will say he will not want to take me down. I'm sure he will continue fighting the same way. He won't take me down and get right back up. He will want to punch me on the ground because that is his instinct to KO his opponents and that is when I will catch him. That's how I envision the fight. I envision myself catching him like the Fedor fight. Not only with a kimura, a triangle, armbar, guillotine. Something will happen and I see this fight on the ground."
Cainin lukotus tulisi kyllä puskan takaa, Werdum ei ole saannut matossa kovinkaan paljoa aikaan Ufc:ssa. Joko aliarvostaa Cainin mattoa taikka röllää kuten yleensä.
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- 29.6.2013
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When show host and Velasquez' training partner Daniel Cormier told him:
"The UFC heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez told me to tell you to stop carrying the belt everywhere. It's making him mad. If you take it to the Florida media tour, he's going to take it away from you. To be the man, you have to beat the man,"
Werdum's response was brash and rather entertaining:
"I love him. Five years ago, he helped me with a lot of training with wrestling. When we first met, I took him down. I took him down three times. He grabbed me in a double leg and took me down and I got him in an armbar. You remember that! [...] I think Cain has good boxing, good wrestling and good conditioning, but if he takes down me, I say thank you. I'm good. It's my home. I think he'll stay there. I'll finish him."
Fabricio Werdum: If Cain Velasquez takes me down, 'I say thank you' - Bloody Elbow
"The UFC heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez told me to tell you to stop carrying the belt everywhere. It's making him mad. If you take it to the Florida media tour, he's going to take it away from you. To be the man, you have to beat the man,"
Werdum's response was brash and rather entertaining:
"I love him. Five years ago, he helped me with a lot of training with wrestling. When we first met, I took him down. I took him down three times. He grabbed me in a double leg and took me down and I got him in an armbar. You remember that! [...] I think Cain has good boxing, good wrestling and good conditioning, but if he takes down me, I say thank you. I'm good. It's my home. I think he'll stay there. I'll finish him."
Fabricio Werdum: If Cain Velasquez takes me down, 'I say thank you' - Bloody Elbow
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- 3.7.2007
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Cain - Werdum matsissa on kyllä potentiaalia eeppiseksi hevariväännöksi, mikäli kumpikaan nyt ei satu putoamaan ekassa erässä. Harvoin fanitan Werdumia, mutta tässä matsissa melkeen joutuu, mikään ei olis niin mehukasta kuin triangeliin taputtava Cain.
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- 25.7.2009
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Jos Cain on kunnossa loukkaantumisten jälkeen, niin ei Werdumilla ole kovinkaan suuria mahdollisuuksia. Tietenkin tämä epävarmuus tuo hieman jännitettä, mutta vaikea kuvitella Cainia Werdumin lukkoon.
