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Steven Marrocco @MMAjunkieSteven · 2h 2 hours ago
Bennett: "At this time, I can estimate that we will provide the documents requested within the next 14 days."
Steven Marrocco @MMAjunkieSteven · 2h 2 hours ago
So, the NSAC has informed me in writing that because of a "shortage in staff and upcoming events," they cannot get me Jones recs w/in 5 days
Jotain hämäräähän tässä on. En tuomitse Jonesia ja niinkuin sanoin niin minun mielessäni hän on puhdas koska testit selvitti.
Tämä koko testaushomma ja testaajat ovat yksi iso vitsi. Etsitään aineita joita ei pidä etsiä ja ei saada etsittyä niitä mitä pitäisi etsiä.
The NSAC does not follow the standard set by the World Anti-Doping Agency when it comes to testing T/E ratios. WADA allows athletes to have up to a 4-to-1 ratio, while the NSAC allows a 6-to-1 ratio. In any case, Jones did not exceed the NSAC’s limit, and so his ratio was not flagged by the commission.
However, two experts told MMAjunkie said that while Jones’ ratio represents an incomplete picture, they said it is is “odd” and warrants further scrutiny.
MMAjunkie on Wednesday spoke to Don Catlin, an anti-doping expert and former head of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory, and endocrinologist Jeffrey Brown, who runs a private practice in Houston.
Asked to interpret Jones’ ratios, Catlin’s immediate response was to question whether Jones had taken epitestosterone, the inactive component of testosterone, in order to lower his T/E ratio.
“That’s what will give a result like that,” he said. “The T/E ratio is the resultant of a ratio of testosterone over epitestosterone, so if you have a large amount of testosterone in the urine, you get a high T/E ratio. If you have a lot of epitestosterone, you will get a high epitestosterone (level). You can’t make a conclusion based on one value; you have to have both values.
“Those are pretty low values – I’d be pretty suspicious, but you can’t make much of it unless you can show that it was once high and then became low.”
Catlin and Brown disagreed on whether Jones’ T/E ratio could have become depressed due to excessive exertion, as would have been the case one month from his fight, when he was nearing his peak condition.
“It’s not affected by that,” Catlin. “We’ve done studies and we know that doesn’t alter the T/E ratio. What alters it is the amount of epitestosterone, and the value you have is well within the normal range. It’s normal, but it is a bit on the low side, and I would wonder. So I would go further and ask for a carbon isotope ratio test. That would tell you what’s really going on.”
Called CIR for short, the test detects the presence of synthetic testosterone in the body. It is typically a more expensive test, and in the case of the NSAC, is only ordered in the case of a positive result that is challenged.
Dr. Brown echoed Catlin’s observation that without some sort of baseline to compare Jones’ T/E ratios in the month leading up to this past Saturday’s UFC 182, it was difficult to make a conclusion as to why they were lower than the norm.
“Without knowing anything else, it’s odd,” Brown said. “I’d like to see another one, two weeks later. The ratio is so low.”
Catlin, however, said that a ratio such as Jones should trigger additional tests to determine how he got there.
“It’s a urinary test for testosterone,” he said. “You don’t even need to (measure) free and total (testosterone). Then take look at those values. They’re probably going to be normal. The most important test would be to do a carbon isotope ratio test, because if he is doing something, the carbon isotope test will show it.”
Despite his suspicions, Catlin said Jones’ T/E ratio could be “perfectly normal.” He added, however, that the agency that ordered the test needed to go further than simply measuring the ratio.
As to why the NSAC might not have looked further into the level, Catlin dismissed the idea that it was because Jones’ T/E was below 6-to-1.
“It’s probably because they didn’t know what they were doing,” he said. “They really don’t understand this thing at all. It’s way beyond them.”
Anti-doping expert: With ?odd? testosterone readings, CIR test needed on Jones? samples | MMAjunkie
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