Ironman 2004
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- 1.7.2002
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Joo Priest pisti jauhot suuhun epäilijöille. Joidenkin mielestä taas ei..
Mutta kunto oli mielestäni tässä kisassa aika kova. Haastiksessa arveli osallistuvansa Arnoldiin, jos voittaa tai saa kakkossijan. Saapi nähdä?
Arnoldista sen verran, että Jay on sellaisessa kunnossa noissa aiemmin postatuissa Muscletechin kuvissa (Cormierin kanssa), että voittajasuosikista ei ole epäilystä.
Mutta kunto oli mielestäni tässä kisassa aika kova. Haastiksessa arveli osallistuvansa Arnoldiin, jos voittaa tai saa kakkossijan. Saapi nähdä?
Arnoldista sen verran, että Jay on sellaisessa kunnossa noissa aiemmin postatuissa Muscletechin kuvissa (Cormierin kanssa), että voittajasuosikista ei ole epäilystä.
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- 18.4.2002
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- 7 425
Dexteriltä tosiaan puuttuu pohkeet, mikä tekee hänestä aika samanlaisen tapauksen kuin 70- ja 80-luvun mustasta huipusta Roy Callenderista. Roy oli polvista ylöspäin monta vuotta maailman paras kehonrakentaja, erityisesti vuoden 1981 Olympiassa Roy oli yläkropan ja reisien osalta Tom Platzin kanssa omaa luokkaansa, mutta tuomarit perustelivat miehen alhaista sijoitusta (neljäs) sillä, että Royn sääret olivat hieman väärät eikä pohkeissa ollut hurraamista. Olivat ne joka tapauksessa isommat kuin Dexterillä.Tomi sanoi:
Tuolloin tuomareiden silmissä symmetrisellä kehityksellä oli paljon suurempi painoarvo kuin nykyisin. Tänä päivänä kehonrakennuksessa sallitaan helposti useampikin symmetriavirhe kunhan massaa löytyy järkyttävän paljon ja kunto on tiukka ja kuiva.
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- 20.5.2003
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Ei vittu tota Tituksen vatsaa... haloo.... Joissakin kuvissa toi Arntz vai mikä Jason se nyt on niin näytti aika kovalta, tykkäsin jätkän olkapäistä ihan sikana, hyvä V yms... Veikkaisin David Henrystä suht kovaa luuta tossa joskus, liian pieni vaan vielä. Paul Bakeristä ikinä kuullutkaan mut aika järkyn näkönen monsteri se kyllä on!
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- 18.4.2002
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Siis oikeasti? Noi Arntztin olkapäät kun on melkeinpä jokaisen mielestä täynnä öljyä. Totta kai ne olisivat törkykovat jos olisivat varmasti aidot eli täyttä lihasta. Mutta tietäen kuinka yleistä Syntholin käyttö nykyisin on, näyttävät nuo patit aika epäilyttäviltä.muffy sanoi:
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- 19.5.2003
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Hän - http://www.getbig.com/pics/ironman/2004/finals/arntz.htmTomi sanoi:
Tuolla ensimmäisessä ja viimeisessä kuvassa olkapäät näyttävät aika mielenkiintoisilta..
ps. tässä sivussa on jotain outoa, kun opera yrittää koko ajan ladata getbig.com:ista jotain..
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- 19.4.2002
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Hulkki sanoi:
Mayhem'lla tuntui olevan pari kaveria, jotka tuntevat Arntzin vuosien takaa ja kuulema olkapäät on olleet aina hänen paras lihasryhmänsä. Mene ja tiedä? Ja toisaalta tuntuu oudolta, että kaveri on olkapäitään parannellut syntholilla, mutta jättänyt sitten kipeasti peak'ia huutavat hauikset parantelematta? Olkapäät eivät myöskään ole mitenkään muodottomat ja erottumattomat, niin kuin synthol-ahdetusta lihaksesta voisi olettaa. No, miten lie..
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Tom Princen "eläkkeelle" siirtymisestä ja leikin kesken jättämisestä:
"Well, obviously, we all knew that someone would start this. The story from a number of competitors that I talked to is as follows. Tom was backstage getting ready, pumping up, but he didn't feel too well. He was in the bathroom, and felt worse. He got out, and was ready to go on stage, when started feeling ever worse.
He made the decision to not go on stage, because he felt like he might not make it through the round, and perhaps pass out on stage, which would be terrible. He made the right decision in not competing.
But you need to give credit, regardless of whether or not you think he should of competed, that he tried his best, and did get in shape, with an astounding 276 pounds.
He was there backstage, ready to go, and I wish he could of made it, so we all could of seen that he did come back, at least for this one time.
From there it gets hazy, and its best for Tom to tell the story. Some people said he went to the hospital, some people said he went to his room to rest, but one thing for sure, we did see him in the expo in the afternoon! And we were all glad that he was up and better!
No one wishes ill will on anyone. So end of story.
Ron
Administrator"
Tom Princen omat kommentit:
"Thanks to everyone who said something kind and thoughtful. It's been a tough weekend.. but more so mentally than physically. My lungs cleared up by this morning (Sunday), so I'm fine now. Just getting some rest today.
I'm still planning on competing for the "biggest snowboarder on the mountain" award on March 13th of this year.
JIMBO's was dead on the money. Being "clean" for 7 months, and taking less, is not enough. My body simply cannot handle the combined stress of the training, dieting, cardio, and supp's.
Flex Wheeler told me that would be the case (because it was what happened to him). But, I had to KNOW, for myself. I needed to have some closure. I didn't want to look back in 20 years and say: "What if I could have done just one more?" Now I have a definitive answer.. and it is "NO".
But, even knowing the ultimate result, I'm glad I did it. I can handle pulling out for health complication. I couldn't handle not trying and being a quitter.
Now I get to enjoy RETIREMENT.. "
Ja lopuksi Tompan kaveri, Bob Chick toteaa seuraavaa:
"As usual, all the "know it alls" don't know jack shit.....
TP made the call at the last second. He did all he could to get on that stage for one last turn. Fortunately, he was smart enough to make the right decision.
Tom said right from the start of our preps 14 weeks out " I don't care if I'm AT the show...If I don't feel as if I can do it safely, then I won't do it."
Tom had to fight and scratch and bust his ass like never before just to give himself the opportunity to compete, never knowing just how far he could take it.
NO ONE SHOULD CONDEMN HIM FOR TRYING. Thats the mark of an athlete, and a champ at that. Anyone who is an athlete will understand that, no questions asked.
Larry Pepe ( from musclemag) will be more than happy to confirm TP's conditioning....as far as 4 weeks out! There was never a question as to Tom being in shape appearance wise....he would have represented himself well.
Tom and I were back stage, literally ready to start onstage, along with 20 OTHER ATHLETES that will attest that he was in great condition, it was his breathing that was short and labored ( a common problem of someone with his medical history).
It would be nice....JUST ONCE....If the "fans" on this site could just let the guy retire in peace and at least give him the credit for trying, and not giving up, and making the wise decision when many would have let pride cloud their better judgement."
"Well, obviously, we all knew that someone would start this. The story from a number of competitors that I talked to is as follows. Tom was backstage getting ready, pumping up, but he didn't feel too well. He was in the bathroom, and felt worse. He got out, and was ready to go on stage, when started feeling ever worse.
He made the decision to not go on stage, because he felt like he might not make it through the round, and perhaps pass out on stage, which would be terrible. He made the right decision in not competing.
But you need to give credit, regardless of whether or not you think he should of competed, that he tried his best, and did get in shape, with an astounding 276 pounds.
He was there backstage, ready to go, and I wish he could of made it, so we all could of seen that he did come back, at least for this one time.
From there it gets hazy, and its best for Tom to tell the story. Some people said he went to the hospital, some people said he went to his room to rest, but one thing for sure, we did see him in the expo in the afternoon! And we were all glad that he was up and better!
No one wishes ill will on anyone. So end of story.
Ron
Administrator"
Tom Princen omat kommentit:
"Thanks to everyone who said something kind and thoughtful. It's been a tough weekend.. but more so mentally than physically. My lungs cleared up by this morning (Sunday), so I'm fine now. Just getting some rest today.
I'm still planning on competing for the "biggest snowboarder on the mountain" award on March 13th of this year.
JIMBO's was dead on the money. Being "clean" for 7 months, and taking less, is not enough. My body simply cannot handle the combined stress of the training, dieting, cardio, and supp's.
Flex Wheeler told me that would be the case (because it was what happened to him). But, I had to KNOW, for myself. I needed to have some closure. I didn't want to look back in 20 years and say: "What if I could have done just one more?" Now I have a definitive answer.. and it is "NO".
But, even knowing the ultimate result, I'm glad I did it. I can handle pulling out for health complication. I couldn't handle not trying and being a quitter.
Now I get to enjoy RETIREMENT.. "
Ja lopuksi Tompan kaveri, Bob Chick toteaa seuraavaa:
"As usual, all the "know it alls" don't know jack shit.....
TP made the call at the last second. He did all he could to get on that stage for one last turn. Fortunately, he was smart enough to make the right decision.
Tom said right from the start of our preps 14 weeks out " I don't care if I'm AT the show...If I don't feel as if I can do it safely, then I won't do it."
Tom had to fight and scratch and bust his ass like never before just to give himself the opportunity to compete, never knowing just how far he could take it.
NO ONE SHOULD CONDEMN HIM FOR TRYING. Thats the mark of an athlete, and a champ at that. Anyone who is an athlete will understand that, no questions asked.
Larry Pepe ( from musclemag) will be more than happy to confirm TP's conditioning....as far as 4 weeks out! There was never a question as to Tom being in shape appearance wise....he would have represented himself well.
Tom and I were back stage, literally ready to start onstage, along with 20 OTHER ATHLETES that will attest that he was in great condition, it was his breathing that was short and labored ( a common problem of someone with his medical history).
It would be nice....JUST ONCE....If the "fans" on this site could just let the guy retire in peace and at least give him the credit for trying, and not giving up, and making the wise decision when many would have let pride cloud their better judgement."
- Liittynyt
- 18.4.2002
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- 7 425
Olkapäät ovat olleet aina yksi Arntzin parhaista lihasryhmistä, mutta kädessäni on Flex (November 1998) jossa on kuvaraportti NPC Usa Championships -kisasta, jossa Arntz voitti raskaansarjan ja lunasti pro-korttinsa. Kuvissa Arntzin olkapäät ovat kovat, mutta täysin erinäköiset kuin noissa nykyisissä kuvissa. Verratkaapa jotain netistä löytyneitä vanhoja kuvia uusiin:Jasoni sanoi:
Amatööri-Arntz
Olkapäät luonnollisen muotoiset, selvästi säikeillä
Pre-contest -kunnossa joskus taannoin, olkapäät ovat isot mutta luonnollisen muotoiset
Ammattilais-Arntz
Tässä sivuolkapäät ovat kyllä hurjimman muotoiset mitä olen nähnyt, säikeetkin ovat kadonneet
Huomatkaa oudon näköinen möykky sivuolkapään kohdalla
Lisäksi mm. KP Ourama, monta Olympiaa tuomaroinut IFBB Pro Judge, kirjoitti pari vuotta sitten Ironman Pro -kisasta tekemäänsä kisaraporttiin että Jason Arntzilla oli vähintäänkin mielenkiintoisen näköiset sivuolkapäät...
En kaverin tarinaa tunne mutta pisti ne olkapäät tuolla silmään. Nyt kun katsoo niin onhan niissä jotakin omalaatuista kyllä... Hmmm........................- Liittynyt
- 22.2.2004
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- 1 212
Aivan selvästi jotain "luonnotonta" noissa olkapäissä...
