Dubai is fucking nuts
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Siinä ohjelmassa jonka tuossa edellisessä viestissäni mainitsin, näkyi sellaisia rakennuksen seinämää pitkin kulkevia kuljetuskontteja. Eli siihen oli rakennettu jonkinlainen kisko jota pitkin nuo kontit kulki ylös ja alas.
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- 26.2.2003
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Suutelevat naisturistit vankilaan Dubaissa. Vaikka rikkaita länsimaalaisia tuonne houkutellaankin, niin vanha kulttuuri kytee vieläkin pohjalla.
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- 25.1.2007
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Hyvä artikkeli, paljon mielenkiintoisa näkökulmia.
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- 25.1.2007
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Muutamia lauseita artikkelista:
"...But the debts were growing. "Before I came here, I didn't know anything about Dubai law. I assumed if all these big companies come here, it must be pretty like Canada's or any other liberal democracy's," she says. Nobody told her there is no concept of bankruptcy. If you get into debt and you can't pay, you go to prison."
"Sahinal Monir, a slim 24-year-old from the deltas of Bangladesh. "To get you here, they tell you Dubai is heaven. Then you get here and realise it is hell," he says. Four years ago, an employment agent arrived in Sahinal's village in Southern Bangladesh. He told the men of the village that there was a place where they could earn 40,000 takka a month (£400) just for working nine-to-five on construction projects. It was a place where they would be given great accommodation, great food, and treated well. All they had to do was pay an up-front fee of 220,000 takka (£2,300) for the work visa – a fee they'd pay off in the first six months, easy. So Sahinal sold his family land, and took out a loan from the local lender, to head to this paradise. As soon as he arrived at Dubai airport, his passport was taken from him by his construction company. He has not seen it since. He was told brusquely that from now on he would be working 14-hour days in the desert heat – where western tourists are advised not to stay outside for even five minutes in summer, when it hits 55 degrees – for 500 dirhams a month (£90), less than a quarter of the wage he was promised. If you don't like it, the company told him, go home. "But how can I go home? You have my passport, and I have no money for the ticket," he said. "Well, then you'd better get to work," they replied."
"In Saudi, it's hard to be straight when you're young. The women are shut away so everyone has gay sex. But they only want to have sex with boys – 15- to 21-year-olds. I'm 27, so I'm too old now. I need to find real gays, so this is the best place. All Arab gays want to live in Dubai."
"If you have an accident here it's a nightmare. There was a British woman we knew who ran over an Indian guy, and she was locked up for four days! If you have a tiny bit of alcohol on your breath they're all over you. These Indians throw themselves in front of cars, because then their family has to be given blood money – you know, compensation. But the police just blame us. That poor woman."
"I've never met so many incompetent people in such senior positions anywhere in the world." She adds: "It's absolutely racist. I had Filipino girls working for me doing the same job as a European girl, and she's paid a quarter of the wages. The people who do the real work are paid next to nothing, while these incompetent managers pay themselves £40,000 a month."
"It is an open secret that once you hire a maid, you have absolute power over her. You take her passport – everyone does; you decide when to pay her, and when – if ever – she can take a break; and you decide who she talks to. She speaks no Arabic. She cannot escape."
"It started like this. We began to get complaints from people using the beach. The water looked and smelled odd, and they were starting to get sick after going into it. So I wrote to the ministers of health and tourism and expected to hear back immediately – but there was nothing. Silence. I hand-delivered the letters. Still nothing. The water quality got worse and worse. The guests started to spot raw sewage, condoms, and used sanitary towels floating in the sea. So the hotel ordered its own water analyses from a professional company. "They told us it was full of fecal matter and bacteria 'too numerous to count'. I had to start telling guests not to go in the water, and since they'd come on a beach holiday, as you can imagine, they were pretty pissed off." She began to make angry posts on the expat discussion forums – and people began to figure out what was happening. Dubai had expanded so fast its sewage treatment facilities couldn't keep up. The sewage disposal trucks had to queue for three or four days at the treatment plants – so instead, they were simply drilling open the manholes and dumping the untreated sewage down them, so it flowed straight to the sea."
No huh huh, aikamoinen paikka...:(
"...But the debts were growing. "Before I came here, I didn't know anything about Dubai law. I assumed if all these big companies come here, it must be pretty like Canada's or any other liberal democracy's," she says. Nobody told her there is no concept of bankruptcy. If you get into debt and you can't pay, you go to prison."
"Sahinal Monir, a slim 24-year-old from the deltas of Bangladesh. "To get you here, they tell you Dubai is heaven. Then you get here and realise it is hell," he says. Four years ago, an employment agent arrived in Sahinal's village in Southern Bangladesh. He told the men of the village that there was a place where they could earn 40,000 takka a month (£400) just for working nine-to-five on construction projects. It was a place where they would be given great accommodation, great food, and treated well. All they had to do was pay an up-front fee of 220,000 takka (£2,300) for the work visa – a fee they'd pay off in the first six months, easy. So Sahinal sold his family land, and took out a loan from the local lender, to head to this paradise. As soon as he arrived at Dubai airport, his passport was taken from him by his construction company. He has not seen it since. He was told brusquely that from now on he would be working 14-hour days in the desert heat – where western tourists are advised not to stay outside for even five minutes in summer, when it hits 55 degrees – for 500 dirhams a month (£90), less than a quarter of the wage he was promised. If you don't like it, the company told him, go home. "But how can I go home? You have my passport, and I have no money for the ticket," he said. "Well, then you'd better get to work," they replied."
"In Saudi, it's hard to be straight when you're young. The women are shut away so everyone has gay sex. But they only want to have sex with boys – 15- to 21-year-olds. I'm 27, so I'm too old now. I need to find real gays, so this is the best place. All Arab gays want to live in Dubai."
"If you have an accident here it's a nightmare. There was a British woman we knew who ran over an Indian guy, and she was locked up for four days! If you have a tiny bit of alcohol on your breath they're all over you. These Indians throw themselves in front of cars, because then their family has to be given blood money – you know, compensation. But the police just blame us. That poor woman."
"I've never met so many incompetent people in such senior positions anywhere in the world." She adds: "It's absolutely racist. I had Filipino girls working for me doing the same job as a European girl, and she's paid a quarter of the wages. The people who do the real work are paid next to nothing, while these incompetent managers pay themselves £40,000 a month."
"It is an open secret that once you hire a maid, you have absolute power over her. You take her passport – everyone does; you decide when to pay her, and when – if ever – she can take a break; and you decide who she talks to. She speaks no Arabic. She cannot escape."
"It started like this. We began to get complaints from people using the beach. The water looked and smelled odd, and they were starting to get sick after going into it. So I wrote to the ministers of health and tourism and expected to hear back immediately – but there was nothing. Silence. I hand-delivered the letters. Still nothing. The water quality got worse and worse. The guests started to spot raw sewage, condoms, and used sanitary towels floating in the sea. So the hotel ordered its own water analyses from a professional company. "They told us it was full of fecal matter and bacteria 'too numerous to count'. I had to start telling guests not to go in the water, and since they'd come on a beach holiday, as you can imagine, they were pretty pissed off." She began to make angry posts on the expat discussion forums – and people began to figure out what was happening. Dubai had expanded so fast its sewage treatment facilities couldn't keep up. The sewage disposal trucks had to queue for three or four days at the treatment plants – so instead, they were simply drilling open the manholes and dumping the untreated sewage down them, so it flowed straight to the sea."
No huh huh, aikamoinen paikka...:(
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- 24.8.2006
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Tuo artikkeli kyllä muutti näkökantaa melkoisesti siitä mitä se oli vuosia sitten. Tuli jotenkin kipeä olo kun luki mitä paskaa siellä tapahtuu joka päivä, ja noiden länsimaalaisten asenteita niihin 'palvelijoihin'. Tuo 'Tiger woods golffirata' joka käyttää 4 miljoonaa gallonaa per päivä ylläpitoon (12m litraa) meni kyllä jo törkeäksi
Pinnan alla melko sairas maa loppujen lopuksi vaikka ulkoisesti onkin hieno ja varmaan joskus haluaisin silti käydä siellä perheen/kavereiden kanssa..
Pinnan alla melko sairas maa loppujen lopuksi vaikka ulkoisesti onkin hieno ja varmaan joskus haluaisin silti käydä siellä perheen/kavereiden kanssa..
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- 4.4.2004
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Kertokaapa omia kokemuksia Dubaista, siis ne jotka ovat siellä käyneet lähiaikoina. Ollaaan emännän ja vuoden ikäisen lapsemme kanssa menossa tuonne marraskuussa. Kiinnostais kuulla, miten esim. lapsiperheenä siellä pärjää.
Onko kallis paikka? Ruoka minkälaista? Nähtävyyksiähän tuolla on pilvin pimein, se ei ole jäänyt epäselväks!
Onko kallis paikka? Ruoka minkälaista? Nähtävyyksiähän tuolla on pilvin pimein, se ei ole jäänyt epäselväks!
Paikka on halpa poislukien golfin pelaaminen ja ultraluksus hotellit. Taksit, ostokset ja ruoka ovat kaikki edullisempia kuin Suomessa. Lapsiperheenä ei ongelmia, mutta kuuma siellä on joten tenavallekin kannattaa tyrkätä juotavaa vähän väliä.
Näyttäisi ramadan olevan ennen teidän reissua, joten siitä ei tule syömisen suhteen hässäkkää.
Näyttäisi ramadan olevan ennen teidän reissua, joten siitä ei tule syömisen suhteen hässäkkää.
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- 7.1.2005
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Miten ramadan vaikuttaa länsimaisten turistien evästelyyn? Eikö ruokapaikat ole päivällä auki vai miten? Yleensähän ählämimaissa uskonnollinen poliisi kyttäilee ainoastaan ählämeitä eikä länkkäreitä rangaista ramadanin aikaan päivällä syömisestä ja juomisesta, toisin kuin ählämeitä. Näin ainakin homma toimii Malesiassa ja tuskinpa Dubai poikkeusta tekee. Jossain Iranissa saattaakin olla sitten eri meininki.
Hotellien ravintoloista saa länkkärit tilata huoneeseen safkaa, mutta kaupungilla tms. kaikki raflat on kiinni auringonlaskuun asti. Auringonlaskun jälkeen onkin sitten melkoiset tarjoilut pystyssä alta aikayksikön. Taksilla tms. kun ajaa, niin samantien kun aurinko laskee ajaa kuski huoltoasemalle tms. ostamaan vesipulloa ja jotain pikkupurtavaa.
Tämä siis oma kokemus Dubaista.
Tämä siis oma kokemus Dubaista.
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- 1.6.2004
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Pukkaa taas uutta tornia:
http://www.tekla.com/ae/about-us/ne...ution-creates-worlds-most-inclined-tower.aspx
http://www.tekla.com/ae/about-us/ne...ution-creates-worlds-most-inclined-tower.aspx
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- 1.6.2004
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Sellainen mielikuva kai niiden rättipäiden tarkoitus on antaakin.
"kuormasta ei syödä", niin kestää korkeat tornitkin paremmin läjässä kuin rapakon takana. ;)
No, varmasti käymisen arvoinen mesta. Muista laittaa niitä fotoja!
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Oon kade...
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Ettei vaan Dubai worldille kävis näin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Ocean_Park
